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What is stronger than Infinity Stone?

How was Thanos able to defeat Hulk in Infinity War without using any stone?

In the beginning of Avengers: Infinity War we saw that Hulk started beating up Thanos easily but suddenly Thanos overpowers him. Probably, the only way that would be possible, would be because Thanos used the power stone. Whenever an infinity stone needs to be used, Thanos is supposed to make a fist with the Gauntlet and then a beam would come from the stone. However this time there was no beam, no finger flexing to make a fist, which means the power stone wasn’t used to defeat Hulk. So how come Hulk was defeated?

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asked Sep 4, 2018 at 3:23
paul paul
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«Probably because Thanos used the power stone.» appears to just be your own speculation.
Sep 4, 2018 at 14:40
Sep 4, 2018 at 23:52

Your question seems to assume that the Hulk is, by default, stronger than anyone in the universe. Is that right?

Sep 5, 2018 at 10:33

@paul: Well you are asking why Thanos could defeat Hulk even without the Infinity Stones, emphasising several times the apparent importance of that distinction. You don’t tell us why you think he shouldn’t be able to beat the Hulk in the first place, which is far from clear. As for your added constraint, it’s meaningless to restrict the debate to that one scene, because the information you may need to find an answer could be found in other scenes regarding those characters.

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Sep 5, 2018 at 17:21

@paul: I’m not «trying to go off track», I’m trying to understand your question and help steer some of your assumptions.

Sep 5, 2018 at 17:32

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Thanos didn’t use the power stone on the Hulk.

Thanos is a massively powerful being on his own, even without the stones. Note that the Power Stone wasn’t glowing at the time and also Ebony Maw let Hulk and Thanos fight without any interference, saying:

To quote an official source:

Infinity War Writers Say Thanos Could’ve Beaten Hulk, Power Stone or Not, on Movieweb:

Avengers: Infinity War has brought up more than a few debates, but screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely have now revealed that Thanos would’ve beat the Hulk even if he didn’t have the Infinity Gauntlet with the Power Stone, fueling more debate. The opening scene takes place on the Asgardian refugee ship after Thanos and his Black Order have taken it over to locate the Tesseract. In a last ditch effort to defeat Thanos, Loki sends the Hulk into a rage to fight. However, the fight doesn’t go in the Hulk’s favor.

Stephen McFeely believes that the Mad Titan would’ve destroyed the Hulk with his own bare hands in Infinity War. This would explain why Ebony Maw allows the fight to continue and makes the scene look like Thanos was just having some fun, like a cat playing with a mouse. Looking back at the scene, Maw and Thanos are pretty calm, even when it appears that the Hulk has the upper hand in the battle.

McFeely had this to say when asked if Thanos could still beat Hulk without help. I think he could. I may be speaking out of turn, but I think Thanos could kick the Hulk’s ass without the (Power Stone).

The article further explains:

However, the opening Infinity War scene wasn’t just to show that Thanos could beat the Hulk. Stephen McFeely and Christopher Markus wanted to establish the fact that Thanos is the biggest villain in the entire MCU. Marvel Studios boss Kevin Feige revealed early on that the first 5 minutes of Infinity War would show off the immense power of the Mad Titan and he was not kidding around.

McFeely explains, We want to announce Thanos as the biggest villain in the MCU, so he takes out the previous reigning champion. And by defeating Hulk relatively easily and savagely, hopefully there’s a sense of dread over the course of the rest of the movie for anyone else who comes up against him.

You can read more in the interview with Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely here.

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Infinity Stones: What are they, where are they and who has them?

Marvel has released the final trailer for Avengers: Infinity War, the first of its two-part finale to the last ten […]

March 16, 2018 2:04 pm (Updated October 9, 2020 9:11 am )

Marvel has released the final trailer for Avengers: Infinity War, the first of its two-part finale to the last ten years of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and it revolves heavily around the Infinity Stones. So here’s everything you need to know about them.

The Space Stone, one of the Infinity Stones being hunted by Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War

Why are the Infinity Stones important?

The stones are some of the most powerful objects in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and they can rewrite space, time, and reality itself.

But most importantly, Thanos (Josh Brolin) has been trying to collect them all for years. He’s been secretly helping the villains all throughout the series, including Loki (Tom Hiddleston) in The Avengers, and Ronan The Accuser (Lee Pace) in Guardians of the Galaxy.

Once the stones are combined, he can gather their power together with the Infinity Gauntlet to become the most powerful being in the universe. Which is probably bad news for… well, everyone else in the universe.

Thanos, the 'Mad Titan' trying to find out where the Infinity Stones are in Avengers: Infinity War

How many Infinity Stones are there?

There are six Infinity Stones. The Space Stone is blue, and controls space itself. There’s also the Mind Stone (yellow), the Reality Stone (red), the Time Stone (green), the Power Stone (purple) and the Soul Stone (orange).

Which movies have the Infinity Stones appeared in?

You might not recognise the Mind Stone as the blue glowing prism that appeared in Loki’s sceptre in The Avengers, allowing him to take control of people’s minds, such as Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner). It was later removed from the sceptre in Avengers: Age of Ultron, becoming the yellow stone in the head of Vision (Paul Bettany) that gave him sentience. It also appeared with Vision in Captain America: Civil War.

The Time Stone has only appeared in two films, Doctor Strange and Thor: Ragnarok, where it forms the center of the Eye of Agamotto, giving Benedict Cumberbatch‘s Doctor Strange his powers.

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Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) with the Time Stone, one of the Infinity Stones Thanos is trying to find

The Reality Stone, contained in a dark red, gloopy liquid, has only appeared in Thor: The Dark World.

Similarly, the Power Stone has only appeared in one film, Guardians of the Galaxy, where it was hidden in the Orb.

The Power Stone, the Infinity Stone found by Star-Lord (Chris Pratt) in Guardians of the Galaxy

The Space Stone, hidden in the Tesseract, has shown up in most films, appearing Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor, The Avengers, Avengers: Age of Ultron (though only in a vision) and Thor: Ragnarok.

Finally, the Soul Stone hasn’t been found yet, so hasn’t appeared in any of the movies, though it has been mentioned in some other media as “the most powerful” of the Stones.

Where are the Infinity Stones now?

Most of them are under the control of allies of the Avengers.

The Time Stone is held by Doctor Strange, and the Mind Stone is implanted in the head of Vision. The Tesseract is in the possession of sometime ally Loki, on the ship of Thor (Chris Hemsworth).

Vision (Paul Bettany), the Infinity War character who has one of the Infinity Stones embedded in his head

The Power Stone has been collected by the Nova Corps, the inter-galactic police force from Guardians of the Galaxy, where it’s being held in safe-keeping on Xandar.

Finally, the Reality Stone was in the possession of The Collector (Benicio Del Toro), another agent of Thanos. However, the last time it was seen was just before a pretty big explosion, so it’s possible it’s somewhere else entirely.

Where is the Soul Stone?

The Soul Stone hasn’t appeared at all yet, but there are a few theories about where it might be. A lot of people thought that the Soul Stone might be in Wakanda, powering their technology, but after Black Panther didn’t reveal it, it seems unlikely.

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The next theory is that Idris Elba‘s Heimdall is in possession of the stone. Heimdall has been shown with orange eyes throughout the films, much like Doctor Strange’s green eyes when using the Eye of Agamotto. He also has power over souls, being in charge of people travelling around the universe.

Alternatively, it’s possible that the Soul Stone is going to remain a mystery in Avengers: Infinity War. If Thanos succeeds in uniting all of the existing Infinity Stones, it might be necessary for the Avengers to go and find the most powerful Infinity Stone in order to combat him. And there is another film due next year after all…

How does Thanos get hold of the Infinity Stones?

What we know from the trailer is that Thanos has two stones – the Power Stone and the Space Stone. Given that the post-credits sequence in Thor: Ragnarok, which suggests Loki might have betrayed his brother (again). The Power Stone must have come from Xandar, which means he may have destroyed the Nova Corps, and we’ve also seen a shot of Vision’s head being attacked, so it seems as though he might have the Mind Stone forcibly taken from him.

Finally, the most recent trailer for Avengers: Infinity War shows Doctor Strange being forcibly restrained, so it’s possible Thanos has also managed to get the Time Stone from him.

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